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The Eternal Christ: What Happened Before Creation? (Ep3 – Debrecen Series)
The Mystery of Christ Beyond What Can Be Known
There are realities that cannot be learned, explained, or reasoned into existence.
They must be revealed.
This message moves beyond what can be seen or understood by human thought and enters the realm of the revelation of Christ—the eternal Christ who existed before creation, outside of time, and beyond history itself.
Discover a reality beyond what you’ve ever known: the timeless truth of your being in Christ. Gene Edwards unveils a profound revelation of the “Christ before creation” and the Lamb slain eternally. This message explores how the New Creation preceded the old, and how you were marked off in Him before the world began. It’s an invitation to grasp the eternal Cross that envelops all of creation, revealing God’s glorious purpose apart from sin. Prepare to see your union with Jesus and your true destiny in a radically new light, moving beyond conventional understanding.
“My Son, I want You to have a bride—a girl.”
“Father, I want to have a bride. I want to have one like Me. It is not good that I be alone.”
It is not good that the Son of the living God be without my mate.
And so they planned creation. Let me tell you something, brothers. They planned—oh Lord, forgive me – they planned the fall.
Gene, surely not? It was necessary. You have to have a choice. Without the fall, there’s no choice. And we all got a choice. Daniel, you got a choice. The day you came to Christ, did you come reluctantly, or did you come running?
You know, when I came to Christ, I was running away from my other choice. I really knew there were two possibilities. And they planned the creation you and I are in before they created it. And they planned that creation to have a beginning and an end. It will begin here and it will end here. And now I’m going to tell you something amazing. You won’t understand this, but that’s okay. You know what the New Testament calls that? The “old creation.” Therefore, we should call it the first creation, right?
We would call it the first creation, the old creation.
Now I’m going to tell you something you’ll never find in a theology book:
That was the second creation.
Yeah, I know. You’re thinking, what was the first creation? I’m going to tell you about the first creation. Here was the first creation. No creation yet. Just God—the Father and the Son and the Spirit. Oh, I should tell you what the Spirit’s doing. You want to know what the Spirit’s doing? The Spirit is doing this: The Spirit is saying, “Oh, I’ll be the one that causes the Father to be glorified. I’ll be the one who reveals the glory of the Son. I’ll be the one who transports the glory. I will be the one who allows them to see. I will be the one who allows them to see the Father and the one who allows them to see the Son.”
And there they are. The Father, the Son, and the Spirit. And the Son reaches into Himself and says, “That’s part of her. And that’s part of her.” “That’s part of her. And that’s part of her.” And He marked off a part of Himself that was in Himself.
I’m going to do this again. See God in light and glory—effulgent, unapproachable light—and at the very center of the being of the Father is the Son, and at the very center of the Son, He’s marking off parts of Himself. And He says, “This part is Me—but it will be Pilu.” Marked off in Christ before He created. Okay? Marked off in Christ.
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