The Eternal Christ: What Happened Before Creation? (Ep3 – Debrecen Series)

Now, that which He’s marking off—is it divine? Well, let me tell you something, brothers: I’m talking about the real creation here. Does not the New Testament speak of a second creation? A new creation? We—those who—if any man be in Christ… Are you in Christ? There you are. There’s no creation. Are you in Him? You’re there before the creation. You are in Him. “If any man be in Christ,” he is a new—no. He’s a new humanity. That’s the word. He is a new species. He is a new species that’s never been on this earth before.

And the old creation passed away, and the new creation comes forth to be seen. That new creation is 100% God – all in all. Not “God the All,” but “God all in all.” When that creation comes, it’s “God the All in all.” That creation has divinity in it from top to bottom—soaking with divinity. You go back and read your New Testament. This will be very clear. Well, this is the beginning of the new creation—even before there is the creation we know. So, I’m telling you, Brother Tim, that the new creation preceded the old creation.

Now, it might not have—the new creation might not get seen until after the old creation vanishes away. Because this happened before. It happened in God. And that creation is a mystery. But I am telling you, it’s there. You in Christ before the foundation of the world. But I also want you to remember: this also happened after the creation – during the creation. Our present creation—you’ve got to remember our time. Okay, this is creation. And God is all around that creation. The front of it, the back of it, the top of it, and the behind of it. Below it. But this creation hasn’t even begun. And He is planning His new creation.

Now I want to tell you when the new creation began on earth. There came a time when the new one began. It came at the same time the old one ended. Now, I told you—you’re not going to understand this. When did the new creation become visible? Can anybody tell me? When did it begin in space and time? Visible for us? It began before the foundation of the world—but for us to see it, when did it begin?

In the death and resurrection of Christ. It became visible in the resurrection. And there stepped forth from that tomb—who? Christ. The firstborn of a new species. A new creation. And what is this new species?

This species is Christ and Christ in you. Christ and Christ in you is the new creation. The new creation has so much that is divinity. The new creation looks an awful lot like what happened before creation when God marked you off in Christ and chose you to be in that new creation. That new creation began before the old creation began. But it became visible when that tomb split open. And then becomes totally visible—and the other one totally not visible to the eye—at the end of the age. Now, brothers, that’s all true. And none of it’s true. Now we’re going to look at it again. Now we’re going to look at it again. I told you we were going to understand this. 

Now I want you to listen to me. “I finished all things before I created all things. I did away with all things before I created all things. You were chosen in Christ before the foundation of the world.” And I’m not lecturing on predestination. Go take a flying leap. This is about the greatness of your Lord. 

Now He has marked you off. Now look inside of Him. Look at all those sparkling parts of Him, would you? Aren’t they glorious? There’s… there’s Eda. But we don’t have a creation yet—but there’s Eda. Hey, how does Eda look? Glorious. Does she look beautiful? Holy. Holy? Yeah. Perfect? Yes. Blameless? Absolutely. Pure? Absolutely. Is there anything you can charge her with? Of course not. Well, how long will Eda be in Christ? She’s never a moment she’s out of Christ. She’s always in Christ. 

Brothers, bear with me. This takes a little time. I know you’d like for me to get to the point, but let me tell you something: Adam will eventually come along and he will give you your body. He will give you your body. And Adam will give you your soul. “And man became a living soul.” And man became a living soul. Did he ever have the life of God in him on this earth? No. He never ate of life. He never took life. So he gave you your body. He gave you your soul. That’s not what God intended when He created man. Adam may have given you your body and he may have given you your soul, but he didn’t give you – you. He did not give you – you. He even gave Adam a spirit, but Adam did not give you – you. 

Something was marked off in God before the foundation of the world. That was you. Eda, if you can’t remember anything else, remember that you were in Christ before the foundation of the world. Your body wasn’t there, and your soul wasn’t there. But His life was. His Spirit was. And He gave you that. And Eda, that Spirit preceded creation. That which is really you existed before creation. Eda, you’ve been here a long time. And someday, when it’s over…

When this creation is over and I’m liberated from a fallen body and a fallen spirit, I’m going to be able to look back and remember—whoa, I remember that. I remember when I was marked off in Christ before the foundation of the world. Ooh, I remember the end, even before there was a beginning. I will know, even as I am known. Now, here’s the point. Here comes the point. Just before He said, “Let…” He died. The Father slew the Son.

Oh, Lord, help me to show this. I can’t show you this. Now God surrounds creation. He is not just here or there—God surrounds creation. And just as creation is beginning, the Son is slain. That He might divide Himself and become many. The grain falls into the ground. But that’s not all. Brother Daniel, I want you to go sometime today to the book of Galatians and discover that this creation was crucified.