The Eternal Christ: What Happened Before Creation? (Ep3 – Debrecen Series)

Now the Father and the Son must look into Their nature. I’m going to tell you something amazing: there is the element of dying in God before there’s a creation. There is really—oh, if we could understand this—there is an element of suffering… in the Godhead. Suffering does not begin with man. It begins with God. And that suffering—I don’t know if any suffering preceded the plan—but there was suffering in the plan. The plan called for God to suffer. Oh, what great love. How great love is this.

There is now only God, but there must be death and suffering. And this is apart from sin. Had man never sinned, there must still be the slaying of the Lamb. Now, they fellowship. The Son agrees. The Father agrees. And the Son says—the Father says, “I want eyes to see you, Son. I want faces to look at you. I want others to know how glorious You are.”  And the Son says, “Father, I wish to glorify You. And I wish to show others how glorious You are and how great You are.” 

But I’ll show you a mystery, Pilu. I show you a mystery, Abel. I show you a mystery. Daniel, I show you a mystery. There was something else. You’ve got to know this. There was something hidden in God. At this moment, no one knows this but God. I’m going to tell you two things hidden in God at this moment.

You are hidden in God. You are there. You are present, and there is no creation. But that’s not all. Listen to me. What I’m about to say—I cannot say anything more sacred than this.

There is no creation. There are no planets. There are no angels. There is only the fellowship of the Godhead. There is God, and He is the All. But I give you a mystery, brothers. There is a girl. Hidden. And I ask you to fall in love with her. There’s a girl inside God. And nobody knows this. Nobody knows there’s a girl in there. And He’ll have to die to bring her out. You read the first part of The Divine Romance.

And the Godhead spoke to one another, and He counseled within Himself and said, “There can be two.” There was only one God, but there can be two. It was a thought that had never been before. There’s a girl inside your Lord. Brothers, I want you to know something: I am a romantic. I live every day for that girl. I’m in love with that girl. I don’t know if I would die for her because I’ve never had to make the choice. But I like to believe I would be willing to die for that girl. That is the most beautiful girl there will ever be. 

Now, let me tell you what else happened. Here is God, and He is the All, and the Son is in fellowship with the Father, and the Father is in fellowship with the Son. His Father says, “I love you so much, My Son.” And the Son says, “Father, I love You so much.” The Father says, “I want to glorify You and let others see You.” And the Son says, “Father, I want to glorify You, that in seeing Me they will see You.” And then they both agree that the Son should have another—His own—a wife.

Well, where will we get her? If we create her…Then she’s not of Him. You remember Adam, “kind of my kind, seed of my seed, like of my like, human of my humanity, human of my human.” And they’re talking. And this is going to be “divine of My divinity.” If you think in terms of this world—don’t. If you think in terms of this creation—forget it. I’m not talking about that. Listen to me, brothers. They agreed that there would be a girl taken out of the eternal Son who was spirit of His spirit, nature of His nature, humanity of His humanity—that is, divinity of His divinity—a counterpart, a helpmeet, a mate, a girl. Hidden. In. Christ. And they decided this. And this is a mystery. And I am not speaking of a man and a woman. But I am speaking… I’ll let you finish that sentence and think about it. In meditation.

Now, again, careful. Listen to them again.

“Son, I love You. I want to glorify You.”

“Father, if others see Me, they’ll see You, and that will be glory to You.”