Debrecen Messages #7 – The New Man: God’s Visible Image and Rule on the Earth

And now we will bid adieu to all of you people out there, but I have something to say to you before we go, that life can’t go anywhere unless it flows. And there is nothing that is being said here today that is worth a hoot, if it touches, if you touch it and it can’t flow out. And the secret of the first-century church was in the gatherings, everybody could flow out. And there was a flow in. And that in itself is a reflection of the Trinity. A meeting of God’s people is a reflection of the meeting of the Godhead. When people come together and share their Christ, and that sharing reflects off of one another, It came and poured forth from the Godhead. And your church…

Listen to me, bird dog. Sit there in that pew forever. Just do it. And all that that that preacher’s preaching at you will just become dead words because it doesn’t flow anywhere. And preacher, you ought to be ashamed of yourself. And besides that, you don’t have the courage to let God’s people speak. They’re going to get on your case. And don’t try it in a church building with pews. It cannot work. And don’t try it with a leader in a living room because the leader will intimidate the Lord’s people. Turn God’s people loose. And by the way, it will take weeks and weeks for them to discover they have a tongue because you’ve had the tongue all the time. They’ve had no tongue. They’ve had no voice. You’ve got all the voice. Turn them loose. Give them Christ and watch the flowing out of his life begin.

And with those kind and gentle and gracious words of mine, you will now watch me ride off into the sunset. And there I go.

It’s morning somewhere in Eastern Europe. The day is February the 9^th, is that correct? Yeah. And we have added two more people to our meetings. In fact, the meeting last night ended with, the video ended with the words, we’re going to the train station to pick up two brothers from Poland. And they’re here this morning. One’s named Peter And another one’s named Henry. And they are brothers in blood and also in Christ.

Okay. I’m going to give a review for you two brothers. This is the next message on the revelation of Christ. Let me explain to you what I mean.

When I came here and sat down with these brothers and sisters in this room, I asked myself where do we begin for a true, true beginning, and what do we need above all else? And I looked at prayer and I threw it away. And I looked at Bible study and I threw it away. And I looked at memorizing scripture and I threw it away. And I looked at everything I ever learned in the seminary, and I put it in a cannon and shot it away.

As Christians, and those who would dare work in His kingdom, step one is a revelation of Christ. Not knowledge of Him, but the revealing of Him, revealing of Him by His Holy Spirit in our hearts and our spirits. And then much, much more, and then to declare that revelation to His people. I have been declaring that revelation. I hope you have been receiving it by means of the Holy Spirit. I cannot give you a revelation of Christ. I can hold Him up. I can exalt Him. I can speak of Him, but only the Holy Spirit can reveal Him in you. And I hope that’s happening. I see little evidences of it. Yesterday was very encouraging to me. Brother Jonathan found out what the moon was. And he found out what the sun was. And Brother Daniel or someone was able to tell me what a tree is.

These are marvelous, marvelous things. We find out what a bird is. And a fish. So, who would like, if I ask you a question, who would like to try to answer for it? All right. Anybody? Mm-hmm. Okay, David. You didn’t do so well the first party yesterday. Did real well afterward. David? We don’t have the singular for cattle in our language. What is cattle? A picture of Jesus Christ. That’s close. Not close enough. What’s cattle? Jesus Christ. And what we see running around here on this earth is a picture of him. He is. He is the reality of all that we see around us. And those of you sitting out there in the video tape, every once in a while you’ll see us pause like this. Because the phone rings. We don’t know whether we’re going to shut this thing down. When the phone rings around here, it’s a big deal for us if it speaks English.

Alright. There is a revelation of Christ. I did not start in the Gospels. I did not start in the Old Testament. I did not start in the Epistles. I sure did not start in Revelation. We began in an age before eternity. And we looked at God, the Father, Christ in Him. And we found out this. What happened before creation. What happened before creation. And we saw our Lord as He really is. Unbounded. Before creation. He existed then. And am I correct? We had nine messages on that? Or eight? Nine, eight messages. Seven messages, it’s getting smaller, on Christ before creation. Unfortunately, one of the tapes did not make it. It was the one on the eternal purpose. And I’m very sorry for that, But you can hear it on audio. And for those of you out there in video land, maybe I’ll redo it someday if I can get someone to type it up.

And it was, it was wonderful. And we found out that before He created, He had a purpose. We found out that He was slain. We found out that you were in Him. We found out that you were chosen. We found out that you were loved in Christ by the Father. What else did we find out?

Names. Our names were written in the book of life. That was before God ever said, let there be light. Yeah. And we found out what the beginning is and the end is. And we found out where the beginning was. And we found out where the end is. Not where it’s going to be, but where it is. And we saw Christ.

And then, we came to Genesis, with this thought of the eternal purpose beating in our hearts. That there is a purpose that has nothing to do with salvation. Here’s the beginning. And here’s the end. And this is where creation begins. This is where creation ends, but, God had a purpose that goes from here to here. And if this is the beginning and this is the end. I’ll turn and face the camera for our camera people. You see my fingers? If this is the beginning and this is the end, watch me very carefully, everybody. Sin starts here. And sin ends here. So, is not at the beginning and sin is not at the end. Even in space and time and creation, there’s no sin in the beginning. There’s no sin in the end. Sin’s here and sin ends here. And the fall ends here. And all of the negative ends here. And the eternal purpose not only is, of course, bigger than the beginning and bigger than the end, it certainly is bigger than when the fall starts and the fall ends. Therefore, we have to say, salvation is not His eternal purpose.