Debrecen Messages #7 – The New Man: God’s Visible Image and Rule on the Earth

The new man came first. He is the real man. And Adam is a picture of the new man.

A bird is an image of Christ. And Adam is an image of the new man. There was a real them before there was a picture them. A image them. But Gene, isn’t it true that it’s not until we get to Colossians and Ephesians that we find out that there comes a new creation. A new man created in Christ Jesus. Absolutely. But that’s just the information that we get. Paul said this is a mystery, hidden in Christ before the foundation of the ages. That new man is called created in Christ. And we accept that he was created in Christ, but the truth is, to be really more accurate, there is no creation at all. Because you cannot create divinity. It is uncreated creation. It’s uncreated. It’s divine life. That’s not created. All other life is created angel life is created, but that new man precedes the creation. And he exceeds the creation. He will be there after the creation. And he comes before the creation. Now I ask you, if there is an old man, he has a beginning, he has an end. Where did the old man begin?

And this is not really fair to you, but I’m going to ask you anyway, where did the old man begin? Brother Tim, where did the old man begin? In the garden. At what point? When he was created. Actually, probably when he sinned. And then he fell. And when does the old man end? On the cross of Jesus. On the cross of Jesus Christ. Not at the Omega, not at the end but at the cross. Yes. Now tell me where the cross is. Where is the cross? It’s in two places. Where is the cross?  It’s in two places. No, it’s only in one. He was slain before the foundation of the world. I am telling you that the old man was born crucified. He was born dead. He was crucified before creation. It only happens that creation came along and intersected with the crucifixion.

And we say the old man died on the cross with Christ. That’s true. Before the creation of the world. Now, my dear Polish brothers, I am so sorry to do this to you. This is so unfair. You need so much background for this. And even the people on video, I’m sure they’re just blowing their minds. And the folks in this room, we are talking about things that cannot be understood. That the new man precedes the old man. That the old man died before he was created. He was crucified before he was created. He was cared for and finished before he was begun.

Say praise the Lord. Say something. Do you know what my point is? And it’s going to be my point throughout this message. I say it in two words.

Peter, we win. We win. Peter, we win. The good guys win. We won. Amen. We won before it was begun.

Alright, but now let’s follow these events in space. And in time. And in Genesis 1.

On Earth. Adam doesn’t know this. Cain won’t know it. Abraham just barely understands this. Nebuchadnezzar didn’t know it. The rulers of Egypt didn’t know it. The Jews in Jesus’ day didn’t know it. And the mystery was only made unveiled. Things that happened before creation were unveiled when Paul preached to the heathen.

Now why is that? Because God preached the gospel to the heathen before he preached it to the Jews. You tell me the first uncircumcised heathen that ever had the gospel preached to him. He was uncircumcised and he was a heathen. I’ll even give you a hint. He was a bloody Babylonian. A Babylonian. Abram. Abram. Not Abraham. Abram. He was an uncircumcised, unclean, heathen, Babylonian Gentile. And he received the gospel. And it wasn’t the gospel of salvation. It was the gospel. Now I’m way too far ahead.

To rule. To bear an image. To subdue. To fulfill God’s purpose. He made an image of this on the earth so we could all see it. The reality was hidden, but the reality was there. The mystery was in Christ. Now when we say the mystery was in Christ, we mean literally that there was something going on inside the eternal God. Inside the eternal God is Christ. And inside Christ, the eternal Son, there is a mystery. And that mystery is the fact that you are in him.

And part of that great mystery and that purpose, that eternal purpose, is the fact that the new man existed before creation and outside of time and outside of space in the eternals. It’s only that he makes his appearance visibly on this earth, when? Now you tell me when the new man becomes visible. And if someone can get this on the very first guess, and it’ll be a guess, I’ll be impressed. I’ll even call out your whole name and we’ll immortalize it.

When did the new man come into visible existence? When was there created a new creation that was not created at all, but it was new, totally new, yet preceded creation and preceded the old man, and he made his entrance and visibility on this earth? When did that happen? Yes, brother. Did your hand go up? No, it did not go up. We’ve got one hand. I want to know if we’ve got another hand. We’ve got two more. We’ve got three. Oh, Kalia, when did the… We’ve got four. Hold on to it. I won’t tell you whether you’re right or wrong, but I’m going to start with Kalia. When? When Jesus Christ was born.