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Introduction to the Deeper Christian Life • Jul 01st 1988

The Christian Life Explained: Living in Two Realms (July 1988 Conference Part 1)

What is the Christian life—really?

In this profound and sweeping message, a vision unfolds that reaches beyond time, beyond creation, and into the very heart of God Himself. Long before the world existed, before matter, space, or time, there was only God—the fullness of all reality. And within Him was life, fellowship, and what we now call the Christian life.

This teaching explores a stunning truth: everything we experience in this world is only a shadow of what is real in God. Light, life, food, drink—these are reflections of a deeper, eternal reality found in Him alone.

At creation, something extraordinary happened. Humanity was formed as a unique being—belonging to both the physical and spiritual realms. A “hybrid,” able to interact with both worlds. The Garden of Eden itself was not merely a place, but an intersection—an overlap—between heaven and earth.

But something was lost.

When humanity fell, that connection between realms was broken. The door closed. And ever since, humanity has lived with a deep inner longing—a sense of being displaced, searching for something more.

Throughout Scripture, there are moments when that door opens again—glimpses of another realm breaking into this one. From Jacob’s ladder to Isaiah’s vision, from Moses on the mountain to the prophets and apostles, we see flashes of a reality beyond the physical.

And then comes the central revelation: Jesus Christ.

He is the only one who fully lives in both realms at once—fully God, fully man. Not learning about God, but living in unbroken fellowship with Him from eternity. When He speaks of being the light, the life, the bread, and the water, He is not speaking symbolically—He is revealing reality.

And through Him, something is restored.

The same life that was in Christ is given to those who believe. The Spirit is breathed into humanity once again. The connection between realms is reopened—not outwardly, but inwardly.

This message ultimately leads to a breathtaking conclusion: the Church itself is now that meeting place—the overlap of two realms. A foretaste of what is to come. A living expression of God’s eternal purpose.

You were made for more than this world alone.

You were made to live in both.

 

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The woman at the well, after all of that experience, He says, “Yes, you’re right. The Jews worship where they’re supposed to. You worship something false. But the hour has come, and now it has arrived. My Father is looking around for those who will worship Him, where everything’s real in the other realm.” And that dumb little girl. May I have your hand? He had picked her before the foundation of the world. And one day, that girl worshiped in the right place. She worshiped in the other realm where all things were real. And when Philip came roaring through that town a few years later, he found that little girl. I’m sure it’s not the Bible, but I know he did. And that little girl had the other realm in her. And she was one of those God was seeking. The father sought her out that day that she might go where He was to worship in the Spirit.

Now I’m trying to tell you, He was a citizen of both realms. David was the king of Israel; God was king of all else, and He could say, “I am a king and a king. I not only live in both realms, but I have the title deed to both of them. And I will be Lord of all of it.”

How high had He grown knowing God on the night before He died? I can tell you it was finalized. He had so interfaced with His Father that He could now remember everything. Remember every word of the Old Testament He had dictated. Remembered the day He had met Abraham. I remembered everything. But that night, Philip said to Him, “Lord, everything is wonderful. You’ve spoken clearly. We understand. Just show us the Father and we’ll be happy.” And a voice comes from within; and it’s not the Son.

Now listen to these profound words. “Have I been with you this long and you still don’t know Me?” He had been in unbroken fellowship with His Father. For how long? For how long? How long? That is so wrong; that answer couldn’t be more wrong. An unbroken fellowship going backwards for 33 years plus eternity. Unbroken fellowship. I have to stop here and ask myself, what was going on in the eternals, because what was going on inside God the All was what was going on inside of Jesus Christ. And if that’s what was going on inside of Him, do I have any right to that? Well, let’s find out.

He rose from the dead, and He’s going to blow again (breathe into). Oh, here you look like Simon Peter, come on, brother. All right, fine. Here, you stand here with me, too, would you, brother? All right. They are frightened men in a sealed room. Nobody can get in. Jesus Christ shows us He belongs to both realms. He comes through a wall, meaning that He is free from the material, yet He’s visible, and He eats something. Can you not see what is here? We have a spiritual body, a spiritual soul, and a spiritual spirit. He is totally spiritual, yet He is visible. By the way, if you were to go into the heavens right now, you might not see anything else, but you’d see your Lord. He is still physical in the spiritual realm.

Now He comes to these men, and He comes first to Simon Peter. So far, we have had God in that realm, man in this realm, and Adam in both realms. That’s one human being. Up until now, we have had two human beings who belong to both realms. Who’s the second? The Lord Jesus. We are now about to initiate the third one. It’s getting bigger, folks. And there’s Simon Peter, and right inside of him is death. A dead spirit. One messed-up soul and a fallen body. And this time, the Lord Jesus breathes not only the wind of the other realm, but He also breathes out the wind of the other realm and His own being, and He goes. And once again, if we can see as angels see, a pulsating light goes in and gets right about here and touches a dead spirit.

Now, the One who did that is now lord of death. I mean, He commands death. Death is totally under His dominion now. Totally, utterly His slave. He’s Lord of that, and now coming out of Him is His own life risen from the dead. Don’t ever think you get God’s life. You get God’s life raised from the dead, and that life comes here and goes down, down, and just right about there touches his dead spirit, and his dead spirit rises from the dead and is made alive. There’s the first spirit that has come alive since Adam’s spirit died, the first time. Now, will Peter ever die? He can’t die. He has just risen from the dead. One third of him has risen from the dead. And you only get to die one time. Now that is a glorious moment. His spirit rises from the dead.

Saints, that’s not all. Now the spirit opens and receives the Spirit of the living God, receives life, the only life there is, the life of God. All of the fellowship of the Godhead comes into Simon Peter, and his spirit, just risen from the dead, now becomes one with God, with the Spirit of God. And within him here is a miniature of the Garden of Eden, a place for God and man. What an incredible creature we have here before us. Brothers and sisters, if we were like angels, we could see that they’re brothers; they both have the same life in them. They were never brothers before. They’re not kin. He comes from Peter of Simon. He comes from Jesus, of Mary; not kin, but now he has the life of God in him. And he’s got the life of God in him. They’re brothers. Go tell my brothers and Peter that I have risen from the dead, because Peter doesn’t believe he’s going to be a brother, and he is the first brother. Wow. And then John, and then everybody but Thomas; he’s out somewhere.

Look, brothers and sisters, sons of God. Now then, the Lord Jesus belongs to two realms. Simon Peter, how many realms does Simon Peter belong to? He belongs to two realms. And when he is an old man, he remembers this. And he is writing, and he says, ‘For we have become partakers of the divine nature.’

Well, we haven’t found out what the mystery is yet; here comes the mystery. As He hung there dead on the cross, He and Adam are very similar, you know, I don’t doubt that, even look alike, some physically. Here is the second one, in the deep sleep, and now the mystery of all mysteries. The wound is open. And the greatest mystery of all ages, it dumbfounds Satan. He never even thought of such a thing. Dumbfounds the principalities, dumbfounds the Jews, dumbfounds the Gentiles, dumbfounds everyone. And yet He had shown them, and they did not see. You know what the mystery is, why did God create it, and what is the great mystery of mysteries? It is this that inside of Jesus Christ, the eternal Son of God, was a woman. Inside God was a woman. And God opens His side and outflows the blood of this realm, and the water of that realm. And here is a creature who belongs to two realms. And God draws out of His Son, the woman.

We’re back to the same incredible fact: Bone of His bone, flesh of His flesh. Nature of His nature. I’m trying to tell you something. I have never felt like I’ve ever communicated this well; I don’t think I ever will. The Lord is either going to revelate it to you or you’re not going to understand it. She had His DNA. She had His genetic code. She had God within him. She had humanity within Him. She had His human life. She had His divine. She was DNA of His DNA. She was bone of His bone. No, she was the spirit of His spirit. No, she was the essence of His essence. No, she was a very extension of His being.

He drew out of her out of Himself the glorious gathering, who has no spot and no wrinkle. Who is blameless? Who cannot be blamed? She belongs to both realms, and when He said Walk in spirit, He was talking about walking in a real place the other way. When He said live in spirit, He was talking about another thing. And when He said be filled with the Spirit, He’s talking about another realm. And He was talking to His bride. He wasn’t talking to me. He wasn’t talking to you. He was talking to a girl made up of humans. He’s talking to His gathering, the gathering of us into one hope. She is His genetic code. Now, she came out of Him. Is that right? Did Eve come out of Adam? Yes. I’m telling you, this is a great mystery. It’s never been solved yet. And so shall a man leave His Father and mother, and the two shall be joined and shall become one.

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