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See the Real Christ • Feb 01st 1994

Debrecen Messages #1 – Before the Beginning: The Eternal Christ Revealed

What does it truly mean to know Jesus Christ? Beyond doctrine, Bible study, and religious practice lies something far deeper—a revelation of Christ that transforms a believer from the inside out. This teaching invites you into a journey that does not begin with rules, methods, or even information, but with Christ Himself.

Rooted in decades of spiritual searching and prayer, this message explores Jesus Christ not merely as the historical figure who walked the streets of Galilee, but as the eternal Son who existed before creation itself. It challenges conventional starting points in Christian teaching and invites believers to encounter Christ as revealed by the Holy Spirit—not learned, imitated, or systematized.

This is not about acquiring knowledge. It is about seeing Him.

The answer is: I don’t have any idea. I don’t know. Daniel, there will come a moment in your life when you will see Him – and you will never recover.

And it will drive you all your life. And I will not say that 100% of all you share will be Jesus Christ, because we have to get practical, and every once in a while there has to be a little adjustment. But boy, everything inside of you will say, “No, no, that’s not it. It’s Christ.”

It’s Christ.

And you’ll come to a passage of Scripture, and you’ll look at it, and you’ll read it, and you’ll say, “Yeah, I’ve got to share this. We need to know this.” And then you’ll look at it, and something inside your spirit will say, “No, that’s not Christ.” And you’ll look at it again, and you’ll see the Lord—and you’ll cry. And you’ll say, “Lord, forgive me. I didn’t see You.” And if you have any experience like mine, someday you may go home and say, “Oh Lord, I failed You.” “I thought I was giving You, and I didn’t.” And then you have to go back and tell everybody, “That wasn’t right.” “That wasn’t the Lord. That was something else.” Brothers, sometimes we have to fall a little short because we’re human. And sometimes we have to deal with things like practical matters.

I’m going to tell you that a large part of my ministry is removing things. 

Let’s talk about prayer. I have to remove all the things in my life that are “prayer.” That’s not the Lord. I have to remove those things in my life that are – well, prayer. Let’s just… here I go: “Oh Lord Jesus, how grateful we are for this beautiful day and all the blessings Thou hast sent us. Oh, Lord, we are so grateful.”

Well, I need a little help. I need a little help to know that that’s not me. I need a little help to know that I haven’t really discovered who I am. Or if I’m going—well, sometimes I do that, by the way, and you may too. But if I’m just always shouting at the throne of God, I need a little help.

Or—and this is what most of us do—I think we pray scared. We go at 90 miles an hour. And it’s like someone doing the 100-meter run: “Heavenly Father, we thank You for this name. We thank You for all that You’ve done for us. We thank You for this food, Lord. We thank You for these brothers and sisters who have given it here today. We thank You, Lord Jesus, for all these other things that I can’t even think of right now. And I’m going to go my 90 miles now because I don’t want to really stop and look at You in the face and realize that what I’m doing right now has absolutely nothing to do with prayer.” Amen.

And I need a little help. But then I have to ask you: What is prayer? And the answer to that question, the answer to that is—in the final essence—Jesus Christ is prayer.

And you will find that out. And that’s not just a word. I’m not just saying that. I have the New Testament to back me up. He is the very incense we offer to the Father.

Alright. Here’s where we get started. Right here. I want to introduce you to the Christ we don’t know. I want to introduce you to the real Christ. And I want to go – I want you to take your time. I want to take my time with you. “In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.” But He existed before “in the beginning.”

“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.” But that’s “in the beginning.” And if the Word was with God and God preceded creation, then the Word is before creation. I don’t want to start with the beginning. I don’t want to start with the Christ who came to earth. He is greater than we realize. But unless we realize how great He is, we cannot see Him in His greatness. Let me see if I can explain what I just said.

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