Winona Conference Part 3 – Two Mysteries, Two Kinds of Christians

Ephesians 5:30-32…because we are members of His body. For this cause, a man shall leave his father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh. This mystery is great, but I am speaking with reference to Christ and the church.

And the Subject is the spiritual community of the believer.

And I feel like I need to say something to the Lord. Will you just pray with me a moment? Father, we’re clay. We can’t touch holy things. Not well. Nonetheless, we’re here to glorify your Son, and speak of the things that just must be the deepest things within you, and for that reason, we come to tell You: we love You, we love Him. Father, You’ve glorified Him so much; glorify Him again tonight. Amen.

Go back with me. Journey with me to the past. Not in our age. Not even to antiquity. Go back with me to the garden, but let’s not stop there. Go back to the creation of this realm. But let’s not stop there. Let’s go back to the creation of the heavenlies; that is, the other realm, where angels play. But let’s not stop there. Let’s go back before the creation of Angels, archangels, and even before the other realm. Now, where are we? We are in a great abyss of nothingness. No, Not at all. Because when we came back to before creation, we had gone before all things created, then even the abyss of nothing must disappear. And we are faced with this awesome reality. Now we have come to a point where there is nothing but God. And He is all there is. Not God plus a realm of a vast nothingness, but God.

And beyond God, God. And beyond God, God. And beyond God, God. He is the All. That’s what we have, and this is where we shall begin. No one is there, just Him. And what no one can possibly know, because no one is there, is that there is a mystery hidden deep inside God. There is, before anything was created, a mystery hidden in the depths of being in God. What is this mystery? What is it? The answer is: we don’t know. It’s a mystery.

There is the eternal Father; there is the eternal Son, who will one day become a man. There is the eternal Spirit. But I want you to understand something. All reality rests in Him. All reality rests in Him. Do not think that you live in a world of reality. You live in a world of pictures of reality. When I speak of the spirit in this realm, I am only discussing a picture of that realm. When I see a tree in this realm, it is but a shadow of the real tree. And when I speak of water, I am not speaking of water; the water you drink, and I drink, is nothing but a replica of real water.

You came much later than reality. You are way over here; reality was there. Anything that is in Him is real; anything over here is an emblem, a relic, a miniature, a shadow, a type of reality. You understand? Alright.

Now, I want you to understand that this is God. He is all. There’s nothing else. If He were to speak and He did not speak, if He said spirit (break in the recording). You will notice that it is discolored. It is slightly discolored. It is a very poor, dark picture of real life. I am saying to you that only real life, real life, real spirit, real anything, rests in Him. All else that has come after Him is a shadow of His being and nature. If you are to get to reality, you have come to God, the All.

Now, there are many things in Him that are real. His Son is there; His Spirit is there, but I want you to know something else that’s very difficult to grasp. Can you follow this? Part of you is there. Part of you is there. Which part? A rather significant part. A little part? A very minor part? No! The only part of that that really matters is there, for we’re dealing with reality.

Now, God decides to create. We don’t know why He’s going to create; we aren’t there yet. There’s a portion of us that is there, but you’re not there. The youth sitting in this room is not. The angels aren’t there. Nobody knows why He created. Do you know why He created? No, you don’t know. It’s a mystery. This is a mystery, but I’m going to tell you this. If God is all, where is He going to create? That’s right, brother. There is only one place on earth (laughter)…There is only one place He can possibly create. He has to create within Himself. And so, He makes eternity. He makes the eternals, the spirituals, and they are invisible, and they cannot be seen. And if you were standing there, you wouldn’t see anything. And they are spirit because He is Spirit. And they’re after His nature; they’re like unto Him. The eternal realm…it has no dimension. And then He fills it with all sorts of creatures. Makes archangels, and He makes angels, and then He makes four living creatures. And He makes cherubim. We don’t know how many. And He makes seraphim, and we don’t know what else. And He populates this realm.

Now, I want you to be clear. The angels belong to that realm. It is their habitat. They can see the unseen. They can understand the invisibles. They can see the invisibles. They are spirit creatures as God is Spirit. They have been made like unto Him. God inhabits this place also, and it is His place; you might call it God’s realm. And by the way, He rules there. Therefore, it is His kingdom. It is the kingdom of the spirituals, the spiritual realm. It is the kingdom of God. It is the kingdom of the heavenly places. And He rules in the heavenly places. And you can’t see it; the fact of the matter, you’re not here yet. Now, this thing reaches forever; you can’t get to the end of it. There will never be a time when your hand could reach its ends and claw against the side.