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Debrecen Messages #4 – The Fellowship of the Godhead: Christ Before Creation

Before the Beginning Eternal Purpose Genesis New Testament

This profound teaching, given in Debrecen, Hungary, opens a window into realities before the foundation of the world—realities that define the Christian life far more deeply than methods, formulas, or religious effort. Gene Edwards explores what Scripture reveals about the fellowship of the Godhead: the life, love, speaking, beholding, and oneness shared between the Father and the Son before creation ever existed.

At the heart of this message are two of the most important words in all of Scripture: “in” and “one.” Before there was a universe, angels, or man, the Father was in the Son, the Son was in the Father, and they were one by the Holy Spirit. This divine fellowship did not originate in time—it flows from eternity and continues into the present life of every believer.

The message unfolds how all things flow from the Father: divine life, divine love, divine revelation, and divine fellowship. The Son lives entirely by the Father’s life, declaring, “Of Myself I can do nothing.” This same divine life is now given to believers. The Christian life cannot be lived by human strength, intellect, discipline, or effort—it can only be lived by divine life.

Gene Edwards explains that Christ came to earth not to introduce religious activity, but to bring believers into the same relationship He has always had with the Father. What the Father is to the Son, the Son is to us. The life that flowed into Christ before creation now flows into believers, calling them to live by Christ just as Christ lives by the Father.

A central emphasis of this teaching is beholding—a spiritual seeing that takes place not in the mind, but in the spirit. The Father beholds the Son, and the Son beholds the Father. This mutual beholding is the secret of divine fellowship and the foundation of true prayer. Prayer is not performance or formula; it is a return to fellowship with God in the spirit.

This message also confronts the dominance of intellect and religious knowledge, calling believers back to a life lived in spirit, where revelation replaces reasoning and apprehension replaces analysis. God is spirit, and all divine realities—including fellowship, oneness, love, and life—can only be experienced in spirit.

Practical guidance is given for learning to turn inward to Christ, to behold Him, love Him, and fellowship with Him in simplicity. This is not mystical abstraction but the normal Christian life as revealed in Scripture.

If you long to move beyond religious striving into living fellowship with Christ, this message offers a doorway back to the eternal realities from which the Christian life flows.

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And the other thing that life does is flow out. It’s natural. You hear the dogs bark every night. You know why they do that? Because it’s natural. And it is natural with the Father’s life to flow out. The Father gives His life to the Son. It flows out of the Father to the Son. Tell me, what does the Son do with the Father’s life? Now, brothers who are Americans, be quiet. What does the Son do with the Father?

Now, this is in the New Testament. I’m not making this up. Quote the book of John: “I live by the life of my Father. Of myself, I can do nothing. I live by the life of my Father.”

 

If I could tattoo something on the head of every Christian, it would be: Of myself, I can do nothing. As a Christian, Jesus Christ is a failure. He can do nothing except what He does by divine life. He can do nothing by human life. You cannot live the Christian life by human life. You cannot live the Christian life by dog life. You cannot live the Christian life by angel life. You can only live the Christian life by the life of the Father, which flows to the Son, and the Son can do nothing except as He lays hold of and lives by divine life.

In case you don’t know, that just ended most of Christendom. For we are constantly told what to do. Do this, do this, do this, do this. And nobody gives us any access. Nobody gives us a door to divine life. And that’s why we cannot live the Christian life. We’re big failures.

Now then, Brother Pilu, I want you to fast. I want you to pray. I want you to go to church. I want you to witness every day like Dwight L. Moody witnessed every day. Every day he witnessed to one soul about Jesus Christ. Now, I want you to do that. I don’t care if it scares you to death. God wants you to be like Dwight L. Moody. And Dwight L. Moody said, “The world has not yet seen what God can do with one man wholly given to God.” I want you to be that man. And that’s not all. I want you to be fearless. I want you to be bold. And Pilu, this is good advice. Because you know what will happen? Praise God, you will fail. Glory, glory, glory.

And one day you will wake up and cry out with your Lord and your Savior, “I can do nothing.” And that will be the greatest day you ever live. “I can do nothing.” Then you must lay hold of divine life. You must touch that life and know that life, for that life alone can live. I put a period there. All other life ends in death.

All right. The life flows out of the Father. It is the highest life. It is divine life. That life flows into the Son, and the Son lives by that life. That’s the first thing.

Here’s number two. It is natural for love to flow out of the Father. Love flows out of the Father. I found all this in the Bible, fellas. I’m not making this up. And these are the hints of Jesus Christ. He is telling us what happened before creation. You will find these things in Scripture.

Now, He is love. And His love naturally flows out. And His love flowed out to the Son. The Father loved the Son before the foundation of the world—aggressively, passionately, purposefully, wondrously, powerfully, overwhelmingly. That’s not even English—gloriously, all-encompassingly, envelopingly, rapturously, ecstasy. The Father loved the Son with great passion, gloried in His Son, and loved, and loved, and loved, and loved again.

What do you figure the Son did with all that love? Let it flow. He loved the Father back. He loved the Father. With what love did the Son love the Father? That love which originated in the Father and flowed to the Son—the Son took that love, and with that love, and with the life of God His Father, by means of the life, the Son turned around and loved the Father passionately, gloriously, rapturously, warmly, thoroughly, completely, and gloried in the love of His Father. Brothers, I tell you, this is all in Scripture. Yes. Every word of it. 

I want you listen to this. When I was a young man, 18 years old, about to leave for Europe, I gave my wife a little silver compact. And on the back of it was written this reference:

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