Christ and the Father in Eternity (DCLC – July ’87, Part 2)

Now, the next thing that happened was He marked you off in Him, a portion of His own nature, marked off to be planted in you and to become one with your spirit. Now that’s what I’m going to put right there. Is that okay? Because I need the center. That’s the second thing that happened. Then the third thing that happened is God made eternity. Now you see eternity. Now, where is eternity? It’s inside God. Now then, that’s why God knows the end from the beginning. Here’s the beginning over here. Okay? There’s the end over there. Where’s God? He’s over here and He’s over here. I described this the other day, the best way I know to describe it. There are two things I can say to you. One of them is consider time, it’s a term. Consider minutes, seconds, and hours. Minute seconds. Minutes and hours were all created to help us understand that there really aren’t seconds, minutes, and hours. There’s only now, is that not true? There’s now. Now just went. Oh, we got a brand new one now. Oh, it’s gone. There’s another one. You got it?

How short, how short is it now? It’s so infinitely short; you cannot measure it. Is that not true? I mean, there’s nothing more brief. The briefest thing there ever is or ever was is now, and it is immeasurably short, and it’s gone 10,000 million times since I started saying this. But if you could understand that this is not true of God, His now is bigger than our now. It reaches from eternity to eternity. It reaches from one end of time to the other end of time. Yeah, praise the Lord.

He’s now everywhere. He’s involved in all of it. There is no beginning or end with Him. He said, “I am the beginning and someday I’ll be the end.” No, He just as easily could have said, “I am the end and the beginning.” I read something the other day that fascinated me. For all we know, God may have started with the consummation of the ages and worked back to the creation. And then let time fly, and here we go. I didn’t know this, but scientists really cannot prove that the universe is expanding or collapsing; they know it’s one of the two. For all we know, this thing may be running backwards right now. I didn’t know that; did you know that? We are so space-time orientated, and no one ever talks to us about spiritual things.

Take these tracts and get out there, boy, and go to work. God wants you to do better than the best you can do. So “here and now” oriented. But anyway, I’m going to try to bring you an article from a scientific magazine that I read a few days ago. It’s mind-boggling that there is no explanation as to why we cannot remember the future. We ought to be able to remember the future; that’s right, we really should. By all the known laws of space and time, we ought to be able, and that’s scientific. Now, they hadn’t figured out why, but when I read that article, I thought, well, I know somebody who can remember the future.

God can remember the future. Do not think He cannot remember the future, and I’m just wondering if He didn’t create the consummation first, and that’s why He can be so confident down here. Do you understand? Is He not a confident God? He just seems to not be worried about how this is going to work out. And I think, well, wait, maybe He started with the end and then came back to the beginning, then turned it loose and let it start unwinding. And maybe that’s why He’s so certain everything will work out fine. I’m a little bit more confident it’s all in His hands now that I’ve seen it this way.

Now then, let’s look at man who is very definitely the creation of man. He’s caught in space-time. Now, see, God creates matter; He creates visible things. This is really late, folks. This is late stuff and very temporary things. So, let’s go back to God the All, only there’s no end to that. Then one day He creates eternity, but He chose you first. That was set. Then He made space-time, starts here, ends here, very physical, very temporal. The spirituals are here forever; the eternals are here for eternity, but space-time is not going to be here very long. If you’re a creationist, maybe less than 10, 15,000 years. If you’re an evolutionist, you know, 6, 8, 10 billion years, give or take.

You know, even scientists know it’s coming to an end. It will end. It began, and it will end. Well, somewhere in there, your soul and body will get inserted, but that’s not all of you. And I do want you to remember that God sees the beginning from the end. He sees the end from the beginning, and He’s there, and this little space here, where is it? It’s in God. Now, one day, God chose to be in it. Do you understand? And then you see that’s where all of this business and Christ in you and you in Christ had its origins in the headquarters of God. First, we were in Him. Later, He was in us, and He came into this space-time continuum here. Now, I realize I’m using a lot of different vocabulary, but I haven’t really told you anything new this morning so far. I’m just casting it in a picture, so you can see it really clearly. Now, you knew that before you walked in here, and nobody had ever told you that you knew it. He made space-time.

Now, I love this story, and I repeat it quite frequently. Those of you who’ve heard me tell it before will just have to forgive me. I understand that Einstein was going somewhere for a lecture. He stepped off the train. A bunch of reporters were there in front of him, and the reporter said to him, “Sir, we don’t understand relativity, all this stuff you’re talking about. People don’t understand it. Could you just say it to us in really simple words?” And his statement was fascinating. He said, ‘Well, you think of the great abyss, that hollow place we live in, and that it is filled with matter, physical things. And we think that if we were to remove all the molecules and the atoms and all the matter out of the space, that there would still be the great abyss there.” He said that is not true. The physical matter makes time. The physical matter also makes space, and if you remove all of the physical matter, then even nothing ceases to exist.

Isn’t that incredible? And that brings us back to what it looked like before God created physical things. They weren’t there. Space-time was not there. There was nothing there but eternity. Now, I know you understood everything I just said really, really clearly. So, we’ll go on now. Then, we got space, we got time, we got matter. Matter created time and space. And here we are. We’re on the earth, and God takes a piece of soil and He creates a human being. He does not yet bring Him to life.

Now, this human being obviously belongs to this planet, it appears. It also appears that this human being is like the horse, the dog, the cat, and the cow, a soul and a body, and that is absolutely correct, but I want to tell you a story. God created this creature confined to this place, limited by the limits of time and space. This little thing that begins and ends that you can measure and does have dimension, and it looks like man is bound to that realm totally, completely, and forever. But as God finishes molding the clay and before He makes Him alive, God returns into the other realm. And by the way, there’s real air in the other realm. Our air is a picture of that air. You know what’s in that other realm? Spirit is in that realm.

Now, let’s imagine that He breathes the air, the spirit of that realm, locks it into His lungs, and He comes back to earth, into space, into time, into dimension, but He has something of the spiritual realm there in Him. And He exhales. He goes (big exhale), and this, which is the element of the other realm, comes into the nostrils of the man and goes down into his deepest part and ignites life into him and causes the clay to become body. And the combination of the two seems to produce a soul, and man becomes a living soul. He tears himself loose from the soil and stands, but don’t you ever forget this as long as you live: he (man) is a hybrid, he is a hybrid, he is of this planet with his soul and his body, but he is of the other realm with his spirit.

Now, if I can get this clear to you that there is part of you that is non-dimensional, that is going to go on forever, and has had a historical past. We’ll get clear about this when we get to the Lord Jesus Christ. You have non-dimensional in you. You have another realm in you. You have spirituals in you; you have a spirit. It does not belong to the physical creation; it belongs where God dwells, and the only way you can possibly live the Christian life is by means of that which is of the spirituals, not of the physicals. It is not by your will, nor your strength; there is nothing in your soul that can live the Christian life. And in fact, there’s nothing in your spirit without God in your spirit that can live the Christian life. The Christian life is lived only in the other realm. Now hear me. I have called man a hybrid. He is part spirit; he is part of the other realm. He’s part of this realm. Do you understand? This is your great-grandfather. You’re kin to that man.