Debrecen Messages #4 – Christ’s Experience Before Creation

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If we were to do a commentary, we would have to have a book in front of Genesis, and it would be entitled The Wonderful, Unbelievable, Incredible, Amazing Things That Happened Before Creation. Before there was man, before there were universes, before there were angels—before anything—when God was all.

We are sitting in Debrecen, Hungary, and we are here in the presence of some of the most elite young men and women ever together under one roof in this house

You brothers, sisters, the last time I talked to you, I said too much. And you probably would need to memorize that message from beginning to end to understand it. Just take a moment to review. Jesus Christ was slain before the foundation of the world. Your name was put in the Book of Life before the foundation of the world. Jesus Christ finished all things before He created all things. The Father loved the Son before the creation of the world, and gave you to the Son before the creation of the world. You were marked off in Christ before the foundation of the world.

I tried to explain—and no man can succeed at this—how these things can be. And I will never succeed at that. Ephesians 2 also gives us a glimpse of things before creation, before other things came into existence. I commend to you a listening and re-listening and re-listening of that message. Because ultimately, in order to make it clear, I had to take you from the beginning of creation all the way to the end of creation. But let it simply be said that you were in Christ. And take that literally. You were inside of Jesus Christ, the eternal Son, before He created.

Now, before we go any further, I want to take this word “one” and this word “in” and say to you, those are probably the two most important words in all of Scripture for any kind of spiritual understanding: in and one. To be one with Him, for Him to be one with you, Him to be one with the Father, the Father to be one with the Son—and “in.” You are in Christ. And Christ is in you. And when we come to the book of Genesis 1, you’re going to discover how interested God is with “in.”

Now let me just quickly run through some things. He was in creation. Creation was in Him. He was in the garden. He was in the tabernacle. He was in the land. He was in the Holy of Holies. He was in the land. He was in Christ. He is in the church. He is in you. He is in the body. He is in the house. He is in the New Jerusalem. He wants to be in. And if you please, using marriage—as the Scripture does—is the greatest single illustration of God’s eternal purpose. He is in the bride.

Now, you cannot turn all of those around. You cannot say the land is in Him, other than saying that creation is in Him. But those things that are living, that belong to Him, those that are truly, truly His—you have this: You are in Christ. The church is in Christ. Christ is in God the Father. In. Again and again, in. We are in Him, and He is in us. And of course, the final and most beautiful and perfect illustration of this is when Christ is in the bride, and then the bride comes back to return to be in Him, from which she came. And then you have that other word: one. One. One. O-N-E. One. Brothers, these are the things which we proclaim, and these are the things which we experience: in and one. The Father is one with the Son.

The Father is one with the Son. The Son is one with the Father. The Father is in the Son. The Son is in the Father. God wanted the tree to be one with Adam. It did not happen—the tree and the man to become one. The Tree of Life—life and man becoming one.

The Lord said that He was one with Beulah. He was one with the land. He was married to the land. He called it married land. It was the married land—Beulah, married land. Then, in the incarnation, the Father is one with Christ, and Christ has become one with human beings. Oneness. John said, “I am not the Messiah. I am the introducer.”

Quickly, when I was 17 years old, a girl named Maggie introduced me to a girl named Helen. Maggie was being John the Baptist. She was the introducer. And he said, listen to his words – now this is John speaking: “I am introducing the groom, the bridegroom—the groom, the man—the man part of a marriage. To the woman part of the marriage, “I am introducing the groom to the bride.” That they (and now these are my words), that they might become one. Read in Romans 8. Look carefully. You will see the Father in you. You will see the Son in you. And you will see the Spirit in you—one with you.

The Lord wishes to make His Spirit one with your spirit. He wishes to make His life one with the life He gives you. Well, let me do that again. I did not say He wishes to make His life one with your life, but one with the life which He has given you. Jesus Christ will be one with His church. And He is one with you. Your spirit and His Spirit have become one. 1 Corinthians 5:7 – your spirit and His Spirit have become one. Marriage in Genesis 2: “Let a man therefore leave his mother and father, that he might become one flesh.” One. It’s in Genesis at the very beginning—one. One with his wife. That is a picture of what the Lord is going to do.

And then, of course, in the New Jerusalem, we have a bride and we have a groom. And the two become one.